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Soon Shin
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Posted - 2013.03.29 08:44:00 -
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The Omen Navy Issue is actually getting nerfed quite a bit.
Current: 7.5% increase ROF per level + 5 turrets
37.5% reduction in firing time = 60% more dps.
5 x 1.6 = 8 Effective Turret DPS
Future: 10% damage + 4 turrets
4 x 1.5 = 6 Effective Turret DPS.
The high ROF made the Omen Navy Issue great with a flight of light drones made it on par with the Zealot, with the Zealot excelling at long range, while Omen Navy Issue was more of a close range brawler.
With the significant nerf to the Omen's dps it no longer has a place. The utility slot more range and extra drones in no way make up for a 33% loss in turret damage potential.
Infact the Omen Navy Issue will be inferior to a regular Omen which has 5 turrets at 25% reduction in firing time = 6.67 effecctive turret DPS.
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Soon Shin
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Posted - 2013.03.30 00:03:00 -
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No one is going to fly the NOmen since its dps potential has been nerfed to awful damage, that even the tech 1 version beats it. Its a bad joke.
Proof: 37.5% ROF bonus = -37.5% reduction in firing time in game mechanics
So 100% firing time -> 62.5% firing time
DPS = Damage/time
100% Damage / 62.5% time = 1.6 x DPS
5 turrets x 1.6 = 8 Effective Turret DPS. - Current NOMEN
Now a 50% damage bonus equates to 50% bonus in DPS
150% damage / 100% time = 1.5 DPS
Now 4 turrests x 1.5 = 6 Effective Turret DPS - Proposed NOMEN
Now look at the Regular Tech 1 Omen
25% reduction firing time:
100% damage / 75% time = 1.33 dps
5 x 1.33 = 6.67 Effective turret DPS - Regular Tech 1 Omen
The Navy Omen will be awful, it will do less damage than its tech 1 version. Use more capacitor as well. No one will fly this piece of crap when you have the tech 1 omen and the zealot.
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Soon Shin
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Posted - 2013.03.30 00:17:00 -
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Liang Nuren wrote:Soon Shin wrote:
The Navy Omen will be awful, it will do less damage than its tech 1 version. Use more capacitor as well. No one will fly this piece of crap when you have the tech 1 omen and the zealot.
If you are going to compare the old NOmen to the new NOmen, please make sure to do it correctly. Yes, absolutely the turret DPS has been lowered. However, the drone DPS has been raised and that's something that should be considered. It's also been made faster and will have an optimal range bonus. I am slightly concerned by the low DPS myself, but I am very confident that if the DPS is actually too low in play testing then the designers will up the DPS (or otherwise address the problem). -Liang
Realistically you would not use medium drones. Otherwise frigs will speed tank them, kill them, then kill you by getting under the tracking of your guns.
Besides in terms of damage application and travel time,the dps difference of 5 medium drones over 5 light drones will no way compensate for the loss of 2 effective turret DPS.
The range bonus just turns the Navy Omen into a zealot, a much inferior zealot. The current NOMEN has a purpose compared to the zealot in close range brawling. Ranged combat is Zealot's specialty. I am a firm believer in making ships excel at different things rather than them stepping on the abilities of other ships. |
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Posted - 2013.03.30 00:23:00 -
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Garviel Tarrant wrote:Also the comparison of the Nomen vs Cynabal based on the dps difference is ********.
The Nomen isn't even in the same league, and even if its dps was higher it still wouldn't be.
Exactly, ask anyone which is the better ship the current Nomen or the Cynabal.
9/10 will say the Cynabal is better than the current Nomen.
After the changes are made 10/10 will say the Cynabal is better than the proposed Nomen.
No one will fly the Nomen, if you want a ranged attack cruiser go fly the Zealot does way more dps.
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Soon Shin
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Posted - 2013.04.03 18:06:00 -
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Even with the fitting reduction on beams, its still going to be a PITA to fit them. Since you're going to be engaging in warp disruptor range most of the time Pulses are far better especially with the optimal range bonus.
Pulses with Scorch will probably do a bit less than Beam with MF, but it will have much better tracking, close range dps, more fitting to utilize tank, and less capacitor usage.
32km range with Scorch is far more than enough on the Navy Omen, using beams on it is a joke.
If you want to use beams go fly a Tachyon Oracle.
The Omen Navy Issue still needs more dps to be worth using, otherwise people will just fly the omen, harbinger, and zealot instead. |
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Posted - 2013.04.07 05:50:00 -
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Seriously in all, why the **** would i bother flying a dam Omen Navy Issue if the zealot is going to be so much better than it.
Not to mention the Tech 1 Omen outdpses it. |
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